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a good day of massaging the rhetoric r or we don't take the time to debunk it, but if the obama middle class cuts go through, rich people will get the largest cuts, still. >> we saw the obama victory numbers in this election. but i think he's had a bigger victory than what those numbers indicate and that's in this cnn poll that comes up and it shows today how effective the president's leadership has been on this tax issue because the country agrees with him and more people agree with him than voted for him on this particular issue. it's overwhelmingly in favor of the president's position on this and the republicans are reading that poll and their future is in that poll. >> and the republican party for too long has been driven by their primary electorate. they've been afraid of grover norquist and the tea party coming after them in primaries, but the more we see republicans coming out, reaching across the aisle, there are safety in numbers. so, it looks like there is going to be a genuine move to the center. >> here's what glover is hoping for, that we go off the cliff. then you go off
or relief that at least the election didn't end up in a situation where obama won the electoral vote but romney got the popular vote. i agree that would have been bad. it would have denied the democrat the clear mandate. the implication from the right wing seemed to have been had the republican candidate won the popular vote, there would be trouble of some undefined type. what the heck did that mean? yes, we've had to put up with this ridiculous secession petitions out there, the texas version having been signed by over 100,000 people since election day, but could the right have gone further had it been armed with a popular vote victory? there does seem to be a difference in the two parties. when al gore lost 12 years ago, he ignored his 600,000 vote victory in the popular vote. he just learned to live with the irony. republicans have carefully forgotten this bit of history, but i have real doubts those on the angry, demanding right would have been so quietly obedient to constitutional law. there's something out there on the right right now that is still uneasy with this defeat. sear
can't give people money and help them. >> tim allen criticizing the obama administration. is that a smart thing to do career-wise? adam corolla will have some thoughts. >> what's nascar all about? >> sunshine, palm trees everywhere. perfect place for a championship. >> watters world goes to the big nascar championship. >> do you guys ever watch bill o'reilly on the fox news channel. >> i thought bill o'reilly was on the food network. >> bill: we have revved up report. >> caution. you where to enter the no spin zone. the factor begins right now. >> bill: i'm bill o'reilly. thanks for watching us tonight. a tale of two americans, california and texas. that is the subject of this evening's talking points memo. over the thanksgiving weekend i was down in austin in houston, texas doing shows with miller. it's been a while since i had visited the lone star state and i took a good look around. next week i will be going tout to california the state with the largest population. texas is second. fascinating to compare the two places because they signify the clash, the clash that's
in this election. what made them think so? the polls were tight but favoring president obama. what north star was guiding the gop convincing them that the white house would be back in their hands in january? back where their hankerings were convinced it belonged? there was a darker side to this deep sense of executive entitlement, the sense they had the same assumed access to the white house as they did in the corporate dining room. it's more than a bit frighting. i have heard at least one person of the right state their pained belief or relief that at least the election didn't end up in a situation where obama won the electoral vote but romney got the popular vote. i agree that would have been bad. it would have denied the democrat the clear mandate. the implication from the right wing seemed to have been had the republican candidate won the popular vote, there would be trouble of some undefined type. what the heck did that mean? yes, we've had to put up with this ridiculous secession petitions out there, the texas version having been signed by over 100,000 people since election day, but cou
and their respective parties in debating and discussing solutions to the fiscal cliff. president obama organizing a campaign to persuade voters that his plans for higher taxes on the wealthy are the right path forward. leading republicans creating consternation within their own party does they reversed themselves from taxes and seemingly the president's ideas of increases, a growing number on the right rejecting their no new taxes pledges and instead are now claiming the grover norquist is the real problem in washington d.c. fox digital politics center is here with us tonight as is the daily caller stalker carlson. egyptian leader declaring new powers for himself, claiming he won't be just another dictator. just a week ago praised by the obama administration for brokering a ceasefire in gaza, and now the white house is silent on the more -- coupe. middle east expert professor hoover institute senior fellow "wall street journal" as columnist among our guests here tonight. we begin with the president's broad based strategy to conduct our right class warfare against the republican party on the issue
and so does president obama. entitlements are pushing the country toward financial ruin. here is what the president said in 2010. >> the major driver of the long-term liabilities is medicare, medicaid and healthcare spending. nothing comes close. social security we could probably fix the same way tip o'neil and ronald reagan sat down together and we could figure something out. that is manageable. medicare and medicaid, massive problems down the road. that's where, that is what our children have to worry about. >> dana: here we are, two years later and still no plan. on the left in congress refusing to deal with that simple reality. vermont senator bernie sanders caucuses with the democrats. take a listen. >> i get nervous when i hear the president and others continue to talk about quote/unquote, entitlement reform. which is just another cut for medicaid and medicare and social security. >> eric: brian, start with you, today. >> dana: you look surprised. >> brian: i am. yet honored. >> dana: do you think they are closer to a deal? after thanksgiving people get back to work. >> brian: i
president obama would like to see susan rice as his secretary of state? >> well, let's say 50% and -- >> you're putting it at a fair 50. >> 50% and the other 50% susan rice is a proxy for this president. i've said it again and will say it again there has been a witch hunt for every person of color that has served alongside this president. there are really serious things, if that's actually english -- >> only you would know, yes. >> about benghazi that they should be investigating. what is troubling is that four foreign service officers died. what is truly troubling on top of that, is that these senators apparently believe that going on a talk show, even a series of sunday talk shows, makes you responsible for the security of people in the field. they know that's notes the case. they know that susan rice isn't the line manager responsible for security. didn't block the right security for these officials or funding thereof. she's in the part of the cia. she was out doing what they do on sunday talk shows which is talking about a whole range of subjects. i suspect that if you asked john mccain
programs. president obama agreed to squeeze $250 billion from medicare in the next ten years with $800 billion more in the decade after that. he was also willing to cut $1 10 billion from medicaid in the short-term. democrats make it sound like a deal like this could be worked out pretty soon. >> bring entitlement reform into the conversation. social security, set aside, doesn't add to the deficit. medicare and medicaid, protect the integrity of the program but give it solvency for more years. >> what's the integrity of the program? we have a lot of questions about where this is going to end up. republicans are also giving off clues about an upcoming deal. several house and senate republicans are rejecting an antitax pledge of grover norquist. but rejecting the pledge comes with strings attached. >> i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the the good of the country, only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> get out the gun and hold it to our head. democrat and republican lawmakers are giving the impression that a deal can be reached. as long as there are cuts to things
? medicare, medicaid carefully, these are chief drivers of our deficit. we made a lot of progress with obama care and there's other spending we have to cut. >> hold on a second. i think we all know what the chief drivers of our deficit are and have been. our projected deficit over the next seven years is driven mostly by the wars in iraq and afghanistan and the bush tax cuts. entitlement programs don't even compete with these costs. plouffe went on to pin the problem largely on republicans who are not flexible on higher tax rates, but he also said this. >> and so where i think the big bottleneck right now is republicans in congress on revenue and how much and where does it come from. democrats are also going to have to step up here and do some tough things. and you know, the notion that somehow that these deficits and our debt are not a threat to our national security and our economic future is something i could not disagree with more strongly, as does the president. there are some, maybe not so much in our party but some commentators on the left that suggest that we shouldn't deal with this
on the rich. will they give president obama room to negotiate some kind of deal that gets through this hell coming january 1st. they say they won, the other side lost, they're going to fight. >>> plus democrats are moving to end the so-called silent filibuster which republicans have used to quietly say if you don't have 60 votes, you ain't going nowhere. this is the big question, if they're successful it's possible, it's possible the democrats will be able to get some things done. we'll talk about that in a minute. they're going to be just like jimmy stewart finally. they're going to force them to actually filibuster like they did in mr. smith goes to washington. anytime they really want to shut down the senate. >>> and the democrats considered least likely to win back her senate seat beats the odds thanks to todd akin and is back for a second term. our friend the great claire mccaskill joins us tonight, the senator from missouri. >>> what's the first sound you hear after a democrat wins a presidential election? a republican crying fraud. tonight, the latest republican fairy tale of how pre
obama has spoken. he's promised he will not sign any bill that mortgages our future to pay for handouts to the wealthiest 2% of americans. i only hope house republicans have been listening. >> we've been responsible, even as we've remained firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that won't materialize later. >> hardly a political plug there. cnn political director mark preston is live from washington this morning. mark, so far there are no formal fiscal cliff talks scheduled at the highest levels. but the white house just announced that president obama is going to be going to pennsylvania on friday to try to sell his version of the tax plan to the american people. is that going to help things? >> well, john, you know, it's a dual strategy right now that we're seeing develop in these negotiations over the fiscal cliff. the first strategy, of course, and the first bullet point is when president obama gets together with congressional leaders and they try to get some kind of resolution. the second bullet point, though, is to try to pressure the republican party a
that isn't even open yet. if susan rice were to get the nod from president obama to replar replace hillary clinton as secretary of state she would want to be on good terms with congress. that's why the current u.s. ambassador to the united nations embarked on a delicate bit of diplomacy this morning with three of her toughest credit activities capitol hill. ms. rice met with republican senators john mccain, lindsay graham, and kelly ayott, all had vowed to block her nomination after what she said about the deadly attack on americans on n benghazi, libya. here's what graham said moments ago when the meeting came to a close. >> if you don't know what happened, just say you don't know what happened. people can push you to give explanations and you can say i don't want to give bad information. here's what i can tell you -- the american people got bad information on 16, september. they got bad information from president obama days after. and the question is should they have been giving the information at all. if you can do nothing but give bad information, isn't it better to give no information
between ambassador rice and her staunchest critics on capitol hill. after his reelection president obama took exception to republican senators critical of rice saying if they want to come after anyone they should come after me. >> gretchen: we remember that. why is no one talking about susan rice, she went out on the talk shows and got the talking points from the white house and said what they wanted her to say. >> brian: she said the intelligence. >> gretchen: that's why she would be secretary of state. she did what she was asked to do and did it well and it worked with the electorate you could argue and now she will be secretary of state. what is going to stop it? >> steve: not necessarily. senate aides. administration is having her sell herself up on capitol hill today and what she is doing, she is appealing to the moderates, in particular republicans from georgia and tennessee. they are trying to figure out whether or not she can win the moderates over and avoid an embarrassment. >> brian: she played it definitely. senator mccane doesn't believe it. she didn't attack john mccain and
, just say you don't know what happened. >> reporter: rice needs the senate support if president obama chooses her to be the next secretary of state. ambassador rice met with lawmakers in a secure room behind this group of cameras here on capitol hill to discuss classified information. an aide to senator john mccain says she requested the meeting. afterwards, rice issued a statement saying the talking points the intelligence community gave her were incorrect and that at no time did she or anyone in the obama administration intend to mislead the american people. the white house worked to reinforce that tuesday. >> ambassador rice has no responsibility for collecting, analyzing and providing intelligence. >> reporter: acting cia director michael morrell joined rice's capitol hill meeting to help her field questions. danielle nottingham cbs 5. >>> president obama is making a public case this week for his approach to avert the "fiscal cliff." he is meeting today and tomorrow with small business owners and middle class families and he will visit a small business in pennsylvania on friday. n
. when katrina happened? george bush's second term. when barack obama was elected the first time, they summed it up with this head line. "black man given nation's worst job." that was for the start of his first term. might be more apt for second term. the second term is when the job turns out to be a difficult job for presidents. if you go back to woodrow wilson in his second term trying to join the league of nations, that was pretty much the end of wilson. that was his second term. when it was truman in his second term during the korean war, he fired general mcarthur. the country responded by throwing parades for the general who got fired. and harry truman left office with approval ratings that dick cheney would kill for, but for everyone else would see that as a disaster. second terms are almost always seen as a disaster, then at least when the big disappointments happen and often the failures. when the soviet union beat us, when the soviet union beat the united states to put the first space satellite into orbit, when no nation had put something like that -- up in space and had
this hour. >> president obama is getting ready to pack his bags. that's right. the campaigner in chief is heading back out onto the trail. he does know he won, right? >> i'm steve kornacki. for me of us it's home for the holidays. you get a rare chance to see old friends and distant relatives. the bad news is you get a chance to see old friends and distant relatives. >> i'm making a pledge to my friend grover norquist. you're in "the cycle," and you have my word it's going to be good. >>> the case against ambassador susan rice as a successor to hillary clinton deepens. she went to the hill today to smooth it over with senators mccain, ayotte and graham who criticized her original comments on the deadly benghazi attacks. i picture the conversation between the president and rice going like this. we want you as secretary of state, so go make nice. answer their questions so they stop attacking you and threatening to block your possible nomination. yeah, so how did that work out? >> we are significantly troubled by many of the answers that we got and some that we didn't get. it is clear tha
. >> the senate has spoken. president obama has spoken. he's promising he will not sign any bill that mortgages our future to pay for handouts to the wealthiest 2% of americans. i only hope house republicans have been listening. >> we've been responsible, even as we've remained firm on this point. no tax increases now for promised spending cuts that won't materialize later. >> cnn political director mark preston is live from washington this morning. very nice to see you, mark. so the house is back in session today, and so far there are no talks scheduled between top republicans and the president, we understand. >> no, that's true, zoraida. in fact we haven't seen the congressional leadership and president obama meet since november 16th. now there were staff discussions over the thanksgiving holiday. they don't seem to be as productive as some people had hoped, as you said, we are now 35 days until the fiscal cliff. what we do know, though, is that president obama did reach out to house speaker john boehner. he is the republican, the senate majority leader harry reid the democrat over the weeken
-election, president obama took exception to republican senators critical of rice saying, quote if they want to come after anyone, they should come after him, after me. bill: he said it with force. kelly, thank you. waiting on the meeting in washington. martha: ambassador rice, reportedly as we were saying one of the top candidates to replace secretary of state hillary clinton and the president seemed to lay down the gauntlet to senators mccain and graham if the first news confriends after the election. kelly referred to this moment. let's look at it from november the 14th. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. martha: that is really the feistiest moment of that news conference. the president, who you see here, with ambassador susan rice and former president bill clinton and others they are described as close and president obama made it clear that republican opposition from will not keep him from nominating her for second irat that of state if that is what he decides to do. so we will see. big moment coming up in 26 minutes from now on
they want. if reagan and o'neill could do it, obama and boehner should be able to do it. >> it's the right approach, the one most beneficial for our economy, that protects the middle class and strengthens it and creates ladders of opportunity for those who aspire to the middle, to get there. >> it's time for the president to present a plan that rises above the reckless and radical voices on the hard left, that goes beyond the talking points of the campaign trail, and that has a realistic chance of passing the congress. the time, in other words, for campaigning is over. it's time for the president to lead. >> when you're $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid becoming greece. and republicans should put revenue on the table. so i agree we shouldn't raise rates, but grover is wrong when it comes to we can't cap deductions and buy down debt. what do you do with the money? i will violate the pledge, long story short, for the good of the country, only if democrats will do entitlement reform. >> greta: and senator lindsey graham joins us. before we get
'll be asking him. plus, foreign exchange, president obama will get a visit from our next door neighbor today. mexico's incoming president is coming to town and he wants to talk about more than just the drug war. the drug war is a big deal. first we'll look ahead at the president's schedule. we can tell you what he's doing. a quick photo spread. no joint press conference. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. is a thrilling, dual-flavored ride to mouth fun-town. but it's not like everyone is going to break into a karaoke jam session. ♪ this will literally probably never happen. >>> in the three weeks since election day there's been a lot of republican hand wringing, party leaders looking to expand the tent, track more women, minorities to the party and find out how to find a happy medium between ideology and electabili
in washington. the president's fiscal cliff campaign. live pictures of the white house are president obama will meet today with 15 small business owners. the first of a series of meetings this week as the administration puts the pressure on congress to make a deal. the "washington post" reporting the talks are accelerating between president obama and top congressional leaders, including john boehner who was on the phone with the president over the weekend. the white house's pr campaign is being buoyed along by warren buffett who is voicing support for tax hikes for americans just like him. >> i think it would have a great effect in terms of the morale of the middle class who have seen themselves paying high payroll taxes, income taxes and then watched guys like me end up paying a rate that's below that, you know, paid by the people in my office. >> joining me now is wisconsin's republican senator ron johnson. senator, it's great to have you with us this morning. and as we talk about what's taking place in washington, d.c. right now, the million dollar question is all concerns around senato
to be off the table. those democrats do not include president obama who has made it clear he's open to a discussion about medicare and medicaid. and you usually would think there's not enough time to do serious entitlement reform. but the fact is, we've been talking about this set of issues for a year and more, lots of blueprints out there, including simpson/bowles. i think it is possible that will be part of a deal that is reached before the end of the year. >> this morning, dick durbin didn't really want to get into specifics. you aren't hearing a lot of numbers from a lot of people, but did say he was encouraged. take a listen. >> if i sound bland and general at this point, it's exactly to the point he made. when the doors close and we sit down with revenue on one side, entitlements on the other, then we get specific and come up with a bipartisan plan. >> ryan, to susan's point of who is the president talking to, is this something to be hashed out between president obama and john boehner. >> i guess so. because dick durbin himself has been confusing in what he's been saying publi
and the obama administration. why? all over their response to the attack in benghazi. well, today both sides came face to face. you are about to hear what happened inside that meeting and why those senators are not satisfied today. but, first, the urgent situation that has everyone's attention, members of the house, they're officially back to work as of right now, this hour. senators returned to washington yesterday. so everyone finally on the job after their week long thanksgiving break. that gives congress and the president, count it with me, 35 days to avoid the dreaded fiscal cliff, the huge package of tax hikes and spending cuts set to take effect january 1 if congress and the president do not cut a deal. we're told they have been talking behind the scenes and president obama has already hosted congressional leaders for a post election sit-down. but the president is also launching a new pr effort, a campaign, some are calling it here, starting with the white house meeting today, of small business owners. then tomorrow, the president hosts more business owners and a group of middle class
people had in her minds about the obama administration, and i find that it's dissipated since election day. still, the passionate opponents of the president trumpet this, but i don't think it's got much traction in middle america. >> thank you all. i really appreciate your time and your insight into this story. thank you. i really appreciate it. coming up, president obama's new fiscal cliff strategy revealed. the president taking a page from his campaign. he's trying to get the public on his side when it comes to extending the bush tax cuts for the middle class. do the exit polls show he has the public on his side? chris van hollen will join us live. plus, another day of deadly protests in cairo over egypt's president morsi's new sweeping powers that he is seeking. we'll get a live report. plus, the former head of florida's republican party, he's making a stunning claim about the state's early voting law saying it was deliberately designed to suppress minority votes. it's just one of the things we thought you should know. join our conversation on twitter. you can find us at @tamronhall
. >>> president obama meets with small business owners today to promote his solution to the fiscal cliff. the deadline is now 35 days away. the president is holding more events tomorrow and friday. "new york times" reports this morning that a budget deal could reduce the tax deduction millions pay on their mortgage interest. nancy cordes is on capitol hill. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you, charlie, and norah. the president and house speaker john boehner spoke by phone over the weekend. top aides in the house and senate tell us that negotiations at this point are just taking place between the president's staff and speaker boehner's staff. that's because any deal that involves raising tax revenue is going to face its biggest challenge in the republican-led house. top republicans returning from thanksgiving recess urged the president to make the first offer in fiscal cliff negotiations. and they expressed a new openness to raising tax revenue, if democrats agree to make cuts to strengthen medicare and medicaid. >> elections come and go. and when they g
. >> it is worth it. three weeks after his reelection, majority of americans approve of the job president obama's doing in office. at 52%, it's the highest approval marks the president has received from the cnn/orc survey since may. a majority of people say his experience over the first four years will make him a better president in the second term. there is measured optimism, however, about the future. 56% believe the country will be better off four years from now, compare that to four years ago when 76% felt that way. >>> moving on now, governor chris christie is getting ready for a second term. the republican governor has filed paperwork to run for reelection. christie currently enjoys a record high approval rating from -- following his hands on response to hurricane sandy. before the storm, 56% of registered voters in the garden state approved of the job he was doing after sandy, they were surveyed again giving the governor -- >> look at these numbers. >> 77%. >> willie, you're a new jersey guy. new jersey native. i'm sure you can't remember a governor having a 77% approval rating, a republ
with president obama later today. wolf blitzer will sit down with the president-elect nieto and you will hear that interview later today on cnn. now, one of the topics the two leaders will likely discuss is immigration. it's a hot button issue between the united states and mechanixi. immigration laws in the united states have gotten tougher. yes, tougher. so tough, many families are returning to mexico from the united states. >> a 10-year-old boy is struggling with his homework. oscar is getting extra help from his father because he's having trouble adjusting to his new school. >> when you left you were in, what, fourth grade? >> third grade. >> the fifth grader is technically a foreigner in his homeland. he was born in arizona. >> i pledge allegiance -- >> has approximatet been difficult for you to be here in mexico? >> kind of. >> why? >> because i have to speak another language. >> oscar's 6-year-old sister, angie, also is an american citizen. she says she misses american stores, bigger houses and parks. their parents, oscar and maria castillanes lived in arizona for years as undocumented
fiscal cliff president obama is taking his case to small business owners from across the country, meeting with more than a dozen at the white house, looking to avoid a year-end tax hikes and spending cuts. republican leaders will meet with a bipartisan group of former members of congress as list leaders as well as both sides hold the line on taxes. >> i'm willing to put revenue on the table to pay down debt and create a better economy but my democratic friends have to reform entitlements. what will make us greece is not raising taxes. what will make us greece is not fixing medicare, medicaid and social security. jon: white house press secretary jay carney says president obama will not give on extending current tax rates on wealthy americans. on entitlements carney says the president is open to changes except when it comes to social security. >> the president has long made clear that he is open to discussions about strengthening social security as part of a separate track. jon: so is the u.s. economy heading for a plunge over the fiscal cliff? with us now, associate editor and columnist fo
transmitting this treaty, the obama administration conducted an exhaust i have comparison of the treaty's requirements to current united states law. here's what they found: the united states does not need to pass any new laws or regulations in order to fully meet the terms of the treaty. the fact that we've already met our exceed the treaty' treaty's requirements is a testament to our nation's commitment to equality for the disabled. but ther there are still importt reasons for ratification. the veterans all over the united states travel all over the world obvious with their families. raratifying this treaty will hep move forward the day where wherever they travel they will be treated with the kind of respect that every person would expect to have in traveling around the world. ratifying this treaty will also give the united states a seat at an international table that we currently can't okay pievment the united states can sit at the table on disability rights worldwide and provide guidance and expertise based on our experience and leadership. it just stands out like a sore thumb that o
ambassador rice campaigned for president obama against the republican candidate, senator john mccain. it was heated. it was difficult. the democrats believe it was not forgiven by john mccain. what do we know of meeting, catherine? >>reporter: we have to rely on the readout from the ambassador rice and the republican senators because it was behind closed doors. we saw the senators and rice arriving to plain five days after the attack she characterized the attack as spontaneous and blamed the video 2309 death of four members. the explanation she relied on the best available intelligence fell short. >> i am more convinced than ever it was bad, it was unjustified, to give the scenario as presented by ambassador rice and president obama three weeks before an election. >>reporter: the talking points that stripped out language including al qaeda, senators say she has classified material that showed evidence of terrorists. >> when you have a position of ambassador to the united nations you go classified talking points in your responsibility for the job. >>reporter: and her meeting this
. president obama's re-election means the taxes for upper income earners are going up one way or another. speaker john boehner deserves some leeway to try to mitigate the damage by negotiating a larger tax reform. leeway to negotiate sounds pretty sane to me. for some, of course, that's a great big lump of coal wrapped up as an early christmas present. >> revenue that happens to be the democratic code word for tax increases. that is simply not an acceptable position for any true conservative. republicans were not elected to rubber stamp obama's agenda. >> seems some news personalities may be taking a tax increase on the highest earners somewhat personally. anyway, republicans didn't win the white house or the senate. i wonder what other conservatives have to say about that. >> the republicans are in a shocking amount of disarray right now. the republican party has not developed an alternative idea set other than what mitt romney and paul ryan were campaigning on and sort of by default it has become their opening negotiation position. >> i see. so their opening position is the one that wa
and that was raising taxes on wealthy people, and people knew that's what president obama wanted to do. they new mitt romney didn't want to do it and voted for president obama. he has the authority of the election behind him, and that gives him a good hand here. >> david let me ask you about grover norquist. the man who authored the pledge that so many reps signed and mike lee was the latest to say there's a lot of ways to skin a cat and back off the pledge. grover spoke to soledad on cnn. here was his comment. >> if you want to go to your voters and say, i promised you this, and i'm breaking my promise, you can have that conversation with them. you don't have an argument to we. you made a commitment to voters. >> he says he will try to unseat people that go against the pledge? is this a real risk that people that are up for re-election could lose jobs over this it or no? >> it is a real risk. it's not just grover norquist, it's the club for growth and other entities that do that. understand what direction these people leading the party in. they concede the republican party is a fundamental congressi
hope my friends at fox are sit down when they hear this, it could be a shock, president obama didn't invent trillion dollar deficits he inherited them. >>neil: i hope this doesn't come as a shock as my friend the illinois senator we are now knee-deep in trillions of dollars of more deficits. and larry sabato with simple advice, stop blaming and start fixing. you are saying both parties are to blame but the attack on fox notwithstanding, i am wondering, are democrats overplaying their hand? >>guest: they will have everplayed it if in the end it results in another deadlock and the same is true for republicans. we are at a special moment when we do have an opportunity to solve a lot of big problems simultaneously from the debt to entitlement growth, to the tax reform issue, tax loopholes there are a lot of things that could go into this and this is a very different situation from august of 2011 when we had the big deadlock of the debt ceiling. this after an election. if we can't solve the problems now, when are we going to solve them? >>neil: i am not encouraged by the smoke signals.
people. people knew that's exactly what president obama knew. they knew mitt romney didn't want to do it, and they voted for president obama. >> david, let me ask you about grover norquist. obviously, the man who authored the pledge that so many reasons have signed. mike lee from utah was the latest on the show to say, back off the pledge. grover spoke to soledad this morning on cnn, if you break my pledge, you're going to have to deal with voters. here was his comment. >> if youen watt to go to your voters and say, i promised you this, and i'm breaking my promise. you can have that conversation with them, but you're not having that argument with me. you made a commitment to your voters. >> he says he's going to try to unseat people who go against the pledge. is this a real risk that saxby chambliss or lindsey graham could end up losing their jobs over 24? >> it is a real risk. understand what direction these people are leading the party in. they conceive the republican party is fundamentally a congressional force, oppositional force. the whole point is to say, someone else is acting, an
. >>> and susan rice, president obama's likely replacement for hillary clinton as secretary of state. rice will sit down with three top republicans who claim that her comments in september about that attack in september on the u.s. consulate in libya, were misleading. john mccain, chief among those critics. but he backed from his threat to derail rice's nomination. >>> and dramatic video in florida. a fisherman spotted in the water. you can see here, clinging to a cooler. he had been holding on for some seven hours without a life jacket, after a large wave took out his boat. his brother was also thrown overboard. thankfully, he was able to swim to shore and get help. both brothers, good news here, recovering this morning. >>> and a frightening scene high over sydney australia. a construction crane caught fire and forced police to evacuate thousands of people from nearby buildings. and it's a good thing they did because the crane's massive arm eventually collapses, use can see here, on to the roof. the company that owns the crane you see, also owns the one that collapsed here in new york, d
of the discussion. >> all three legs of this will have to be part of it. >> reporter: president obama has tapped treasury secretary tim geithner to lead negotiations on these fiscal cliff talks. rob and paula, back to you. >> both sides are going to have to give a little. both sides. should be interesting. the president now trying to make a public push. he's meeting with business leaders to try to sell this plan. the white house warning closer and closer, the average family will pay $2,200 more a year in taxes if we go over the cliff by the end of the year. >> republicans coupling this with the entitlement program saying, we will do this if -- comes down to say they're closing tax loopholes, yes, we will do so. raszing taxes, they don't want to do so. >> the president said during the first news conference. look, i understand the loophole argument you are making that is not enough money to get us where we need to be. seems to be a divide there. intense negotiations you can imagine behind closed doors and in front of the camera. >> closer we get the more leverage the president has. >> merry christ
the fighting, the bitterness, and the gridlock will only get worse. that senate democrat was president obama. i don't often agree with president obama on matters of policy and the issue he was referring to here was different than this one, but the principle he expressed in defending his position then is one that i believe in wholeheartedly. let me sum it up this way. for the sake of this institution and the future of the country, i implore members on both sides to oppose this naked power grab strenuously and loudly. it may be the most important thing you ever do. because the debates of the moment are passing but the senate must endure. and nothing less is at stake. mr. president, i yield the floor. >> republican leader, absolutely true, i follow the golden rule and it is very clear what has happened during this congress we can go over all the numbers and really project what happened about the hundreds and hundreds of times we have been forced to file cloture on relatively meaningless things my friend the republican leader thinks changing rules can make the senate more efficient as an assault on
.s. consulate in libya, one that could affect who president obama nominates as his next secretary of state. nbc white house correspondent chuck todd has the latest on this story. chuck, good morning to you. >> reporter: well, the woman who could be president obama's pick to replace hillary clinton as secretary of state, u.n. ambassador susan rice. she's going to capitol hill today for some closed door meetings with republican senators, including some of her toughest critics like john mccain as she attempts to explain her comments about the benghazi terrorist attacks, a move that could also signal the president is planning to go ahead with rice's susan rice heads to capitol hill today where along with the acting cia director, she'll meet with three of her toughest republican critics to do damage control, a move that could pave the way for rice's nomination for secretary of state. at issue, rice's initial incorrect explanation of the september 11th terrorist attack in benghazi. >> this is a spontaneous reaction to a video. >> reporter: when rice's name was first floated for secretary of state, go
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